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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-30-2003, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
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Question Rattlecan paint job ?

just got my sharkskinz in. want to do a simple flat black job. it'd be my 1st paint job.

questions
1. can i just use primer? do they come in black and white?
2. do i have to sand down primer? which grit to use in which stages?
3. do i have to clearcoat primer? or *should* i clearcoat primer?
4. if #1 isn't a good idea, which rattlecan should i use?
5. how would i do a 2 tone job (2nd pic)? would i spray the main
color first, then sand/reprimer over main color? or maybe easier
to spray white color first, then black?
5a. if white sprayed first, will black look grey? i want flat black like a Mille.

either this or:

<img src="http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/stingray/SV650/794263-img_1398-b.jpg">

if not too complicated, would like this and add sponsor stickers on white portion:

<img src="http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/stingray/SV650/794262-img_1398-bw.jpg">

thanks. need a project for the winter season.

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no rattle can is any good you should take it to a bodyshop and let them do it so it will look great. black and white are the two cheapest colors there is to paint out there.
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Spray the white first, you are correct about it being hard to get good coverage if you painted it all black first.

I have been impressed with the last few Shark Skins that I have painted, the quality is way up from a few years ago

You should scuff down the skins with a solvent, using a heavy scuffy pad, red in color then go over with a gray, prime 3 or 4 coats and then hit it with 320 then 400 grit paper wet sanded, make sure you use a heavy build primer, they come many different ways

You do not clear coat the primer

You can clear coat the paint, it comes many ways. What you want is a single stage paint which you would not have to clear, for flat black this is what I recommend, if you use a clear over the flat black it will make it shiny

You do not want to use just primer, it is very porous, it is meant to act as a bond between the paint and the material it is being applied to, it has no durable qualities

Good luck with your paint job, be sure to post up some pictures when your done

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I wouldn't

even waste my time trying to get a "nice" finish with rattle cans.... A bodyshop will spray them with a single stage for probably $100-$150
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even waste my time trying to get a "nice" finish with rattle cans.... A bodyshop will spray them with a single stage for probably $100-$150
But $40 is cheaper.

Hell I thought of painting race plastic for teh races, but we are a pretty cheap bunch.


$200 for body shop painting vs $40 for cans. Hmmm wonder what they would take.
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I rattle can painted some race plastics a few months ago. I was so happy with the results I have painting my new track bike plastics with a rattle can tommorow. Like it was said earlier, you need to make sure to scuff the bare surface real good. Primer and paint wont stick good if the surface is smooth. Its a good idea to look at the bare plastic at different angles in the light when sanding to make sure you dont have any shiny spots (it will make sense when your sanding). I used 4 coats of black Krylon plastic primer, scuffed it, then hit it with 4 coats of Krylon flat black (for plastic).
After it dried I tried scratching it with a key and got nothing (of course if I pressed hard it would have scratched). Just be patient. I will try to find some pics and post it.

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Rattlecan Paint

Here is a link to how I painted my bike with Rustoleum Spray Paint as the base coat

http://home.comcast.net/~clcormier/YZF600.htm
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Thats pretty impressive, are you going to put some stock-type stickers on it or leave it just paintecd?

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As of now I am awating an order of the resin covered tuning fork logos.... 2 for the tank and 1 for the front in between the headlights. Just like the ones on the new Yamaha's. Other than that I'm not sure if I'll do anything else....probably a chrome "Yamaha" on the lower and possably a kanji letterring on the side farings. I don't want it to look tacky, but I think it needs something more.
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$200 for body shop painting vs $40 for cans. Hmmm wonder what they would take.
exactly

i'd rather not go to a body shop. unneeded expensives esp. for a racer. i just don't want it primer grey. though i don't want it to come off and make my leathers all dirty either
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Here is a link to how I painted my bike with Rustoleum Spray Paint as the base coat
that looks pretty good. thanks for the link

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If you want to do something with stickers, and dont want it to look tacky (like an airbrushed taz on the tank with flames and machine guns or something like that) then a good way to go is to either just put some stock type stickers in a color that would look right, (I think that a little bit lighter or darker tone of the grey would be good, or maybe a dark, dark maroon) or to look to some of the famous racebikes for ideas, although those are much more trouble to replicate. I would suggest a good sized YZF in a barely noticeable darker tone of grey (kind of like they do ghost flames, so they are not so visible until you look) and then maybe the numberplate and size logos. Definitely dont go with updated stickers, as that is cheezy (like putting an R1 sticker on a 91FZR1000 or something). Anyway, just my opinion, and lemme tell ya, its not worth much.

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not really into stickers. unless they're sponsors

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