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Ponytail Helmet

I actually saw this in the women's lounge of a mountain biking site: Ponytail Helmet Modification System



Here was the post on the mountain biking site:

Hi everyone! I'm new to this site. But I do have a solution for anyone with long hair who wishes to wear their ponytail THROUGH their helmet.

I have recently filed for U.S. Patent Rights on a new design and I am working with a marketing company to bring it to market. THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTISMENT.

I have a web site that you can visit to view the proto type of my motorcycle helmet that I first modified. http://www.pthms.zoomshare.com/ . I also have modified my Bell Advenger helmet for my bicycle riding days. I ride here in the valley atleast 3-5 days a week and everyone loves my ponytail helmet.

If you contact me through my e-mail @ ponytailhelmets.com I will give you the directions for FREE on how to modify your own helmet. It is fairly simple to do and really easy to use. The parts can be purchased at your local Home Depot and the total cost is under $10.00. Time to modify is approx. 15 mins.

Of course when they are manufactured the parts will be of different materials however, for the time being until they are available for sale, this is a very easy way to allieviate the pain and pressure of a ponytail in the helmet, and it also keeps your hair off your neck!

This may not work for all helmets but it works for mine and maybe yours.
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Here was my response:

I'm an expert female motorcycle roadracer with long hair (mid-back), so I spend a lot of time on the bike at high rates of speed. Just some feedback on your idea.

First, I spend on average about $500 on my helmets for riding and racing. I puchase a helmet about once every 2 years. The biggest thing I'm concerned about is safety, so I only purchase top-of-the line helmets. I'm currently racing with an AGV XR2. Your design requires a hole to be drilled in the helmet. My concern is how this compromises the safety of the helmet. The Snell and DOT tests that the helmets were certified to were performed with no hole in the helmet, so introducing the hole voids those certifications. Additionally, how does the user know that the drilling process doesn't introduce fractures in the shell, impact absorbing liner, and padding, compromising the performance of those materials in the event of a crash?

Second, my AGV Owner Instruction manual states under Section E of Information for Users : "No attachments should be made to the helmet except those recommended by the helmet manufacturer. Do not drill or cut the shell." Did you obtain such recommendations by each helmet manufacturer for your invention?

Third, after spending $500 on a helmet, I am turned off by the idea of drilling a hole in it.

Personally, I would not use this product. My concern above all else is safety, and drilling a huge hole in a helmet when the manufacturer advises against it just doesn't seem smart. Also, in the event of a crash, the hair can be ground off due to being trapped between the helmet and the pavement. A fellow female racer had this happen when wearing pigtails under her helmet. She crashed, and one pigtail was caught between the shoulder of her leathers and the pavement, grinding it off. This invention may add to that risk due to the location of the ponytail on the exterior of the helmet.
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Thats the first thing I thought of when I read that. I would never buy a helmet and drill a hole in it. I guess for those female riders that just want to be cute and aren't concerned with safety, than fine. I think it is a dumb idea.

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That doesn't seem to be the smartest invention ever. Buying a helmet, only to drill a hole in it? I'm sure your hair sticking out from your helmet would also get horribly tangled...and look quite retarded.

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I don't like that idea either. MZ, did you get a response?

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Wow, I didn't go look at the page but I didn't realize that she meant literally having the ponytail go through the helmet (I thought it was a cute little attach on fake ponytail). Yeah, and no way am I drilling a hole in my helmet.

HEh, I'm just amused cause the helmet shown on this page is my exact helmet... it even has the sun visor (minus the sun visor) attachment modification that Nolan offered for that model (they have a new model that comes with it and they were nice enough to make an attachment you could install it on the old model). I know cause the side covers would be the same color as the helmet otherwise rather than that smoke color.
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MZ, did you get a response?
Nope, not yet. I'll post it if I do.

The other thing I'm wondering is, how do you put the helmet on? You've got to route the hair through the hole first from the inside. That seems kinda tough to do with a MC helmet. I guess if you braid the hair first, then pull it through. Or maybe just squish it on your head and try to reach through the hole to get the hair out.

I think I'll stick to the Hairglove.
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Doesn't sound like a good idea to me either...
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Nope, not yet. I'll post it if I do.

The other thing I'm wondering is, how do you put the helmet on? You've got to route the hair through the hole first from the inside. That seems kinda tough to do with a MC helmet. I guess if you braid the hair first, then pull it through. Or maybe just squish it on your head and try to reach through the hole to get the hair out.

I think I'll stick to the Hairglove.
I didn't look at the page either yet, but if it's anything like the baseball helmets you have to place the end of your hair through the helmet and then pull it through.

I definately would not drill a hole in my helmet. Forget that. I'll stick with helmet hair or the hair glove also before I would do that.....

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Thats the first thing I thought of when I read that. I would never buy a helmet and drill a hole in it. I guess for those female riders that just want to be cute and aren't concerned with safety, than fine. I think it is a dumb idea.
what's so hard in just putting your hair in a low ponytail or braid, putting it in a hair glove, or just leaving it down UNDER the helmet. I can imagine this would be a "great idea" for the girls that ride that really wanna make sure people know that they're girls. I think it's really dumb. I would NEVER drill a hole in my helmets. I sure as hell don't want to compromise my safety. Hell, if they really want to look like a girl, they can rock the all pink gear and put a big sticker on the back of my helmet that says, "LOOK AT ME... I'M A GIRL!!!!!"
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YEa, that's ridiculous. I'm not comprimising the safety features of my helmet for the sake of looking cuter. I dig my Hairglove so much that it doesn't even matter

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And here is the difference between posing and riding.

I have no problem wanting to look cute with my motorcycle. But I'll do the cutsey stuff when I'm not barreling around hairpin turns (or in some of your cases) trying to pass someone on the inside on a trackday. I can imagine that in case of a crash, not only would your hair get ground off (annoying, but not life-threatening), it might also get caught somewhere and snap your head back breaking your neck. Not exactly worth the risk IMO.

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I think I'll stick to the Hairglove.
I have hair to the middle of my back. What is the hairglove and is there a website that you can look at? Or any recommendations. I can't braid my hair but if I have it in a bun it is too big of abun and it bothers me.
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What is the hairglove and is there a website that you can look at?
Hairglove.com

It's a glove made out of material (leather, neoprene, suede) that covers the ponytail. I use a neoprene one and love it. It keeps all of my hair back and keeps the tangles out.
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I ride here in the valley atleast 3-5 days a week and everyone loves my ponytail helmet.


I'd like to know who everyone is....Line them all up and shoot them. That has to be the STUPIDEST thing I've ever seen!

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Big, fat, smelly...

...scam, quite frankly.

Bicycle helmets have had "ponytail ports" in the headlock harnesses for years.

Plus, given the picture, the hair would be pulled out of the top of the helmet; reminiscient of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

Imagine pulling your hair through your helmet dragging across the ground...
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this is just some goofy idea to get us to spend money unknowingly, quite frankly I am insulted.
although it does refence bicycle helemts the picture posted is of a motorcycle helmet.
forward the picture on to snell or a few helmet manufacturers and see if they comment to the seller.
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Not to mention it looks STUPID!!!

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yeah like some cartoon character
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Here was my response:


Well said. I sent an email as well... with much the same flavor as yours.

Hairglove all the way

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