Moving up

[Breeze75]

I am going to keep my 600RR for the rest of the summer but i'm thinking of moving up to a 1000 next spring. Does anyone have any recomendations on a really good bike? I will be buying it new so I don't want to make any mistakes. How does thew new R1 compare to theCBR 1000 RR

[zcspec]

glad to see you're keeping the RR...as for new year, because you're use to the 600RR...I'd step up to the 1000RR. You'll just be getting something much faster with more potential. The nice thing about the 1000RR...you're keeping Honda's reliability, refinement, and ingenuity in the family. Nothing against the new R1, I just think that Honda's ride mush smoother and feel much more refined. But that's just my .02cents.

[Mr. Clean]

litre bikes are (except for twins) are overrated...I'd keep the 6

[Most Hated]

Black 1000rr...yea...

Wait til the 05's come out, see what happens with them then.

[briF4i]

zcspec said:
glad to see you're keeping the RR...as for new year, because you're use to the 600RR...I'd step up to the 1000RR. You'll just be getting something much faster with more potential. The nice thing about the 1000RR...you're keeping Honda's reliability, refinement, and ingenuity in the family. Nothing against the new R1, I just think that Honda's ride mush smoother and feel much more refined. But that's just my .02cents.

Plus there are a lot of similarities between the 600 RR and the 1000RR so learning a whole new bike might not be that big of a learning curve other than power then again I could be wrong since I have not ridin the 1000RR. Basically you get what you want cause most normal street riders can't use a liter bike to there full potenial anyways so get what makes you happer. Just stay away from the 1K cause those just sucks ass

[sleepyFU]

i think liter bikes are more street friendly then 600s.

[gxrphil]

Mr. Clean said:
litre bikes are (except for twins) are overrated...I'd keep the 6

Overrated What just cause you were paranoid about the bike getting away from you. Get real they are not overrated they might be overkill. But get on a decent road with no traffic decent pavement and some nice power sweeper corners and I will show you why a 600 is still a kids bike

[gxrphil]

Nah Peter is right since you are on a 600 RR now The 1000 RR does make sense will be easy to transition too. But I would at least check out the other three before making any firm decision as they all have their strengths and weaknesses.

My opinion 1000 RR is underpowered when compared to the other 3 R1 has the power but has low end like a 600. To me it would be between the GSXR and ZX10R. Gixxer better low end and Kawi better top end.

[GixxerPete]

I've read several magazines now that have called the 1000RR "a good first liter bike". Let me clarify that, they meant first liter bike, not first bike!!! What they meant was that the power deliver is much smoother and more tame than the others, and the chassis is more forgiving of hamfisted riding, something the other definitely are not.

So if you're moving up from a smaller bike, the 1000RR would seem like a good choice. And since you're on a 600RR now, it should feel somewhat similar, just a lot more power.

And ditto what Phil said about the R1, it feels like a 600 unless you rev the tits off it. (also like a 600) IMHO, liter bikes should have gobs of power everywhere, and you shouldn't have to row the gearbox to make it go fast, like a 600.

[adam2003]

Hey dude I new you'd want a 1000cc bike soon. your a big guy to be on a 600. givin that the 600cc is still FAST but the 1000cc is better. the 10r is sweet but you already have the 600r.

[BordnBill]

Ride Jeff's twin and see if you like a twin better than an inline. As soon as I rode a twin, I was hooked.

[workbill]

http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/sh...threadid=88267

[stevieb]

workbill said:
http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/sh...threadid=88267

AAAAAHHHHHHH

She's SCCCCUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYY

Im gonna go hide now.

[HeyDanNiceShot]

My 1000 is easier to ride than any of my 600s were. Just more power everywhere. Ride a twin too though, I actually really like the powerband on my RC. The 1000 is definitly faster, but I think the RC is more fun to ride. At least for a short distance anyway. The R1s definitly scream, but everyone is right, you have to rev them to get the power out of them. They've still got more power everywhere compared to a 600.

[Breeze75]

Thanks for all the input. You guys have been very helpful.

[Mr. Clean]

gxrphil said:
Overrated What just cause you were paranoid about the bike getting away from you. Get real they are not overrated they might be overkill. But get on a decent road with no traffic decent pavement and some nice power sweeper corners and I will show you why a 600 is still a kids bike

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight nah, overrated because either you ride a 600 at 9/10 or a 1000 at 7/10 and get to the same spot at the same time. Sure you can show someone the 600 is still a kids bike, but that person on that 600 probably needs to learn how to ride too!

Didn't Matt spank you on his R6 a few times?

Anyhoo, it's just my opinion. The smaller bikes just seem to be more fun.

[MAVER1CK]

gxrphil said:
But get on a decent road with no traffic decent pavement and some nice power sweeper corners and I will show you why a 600 is still a kids bike

im down for that.

[oldskooler]

IMO, a 750 is all anyone would need unless they are seriously compensating for something. 98% of you are never going to be able to tap the potential of a litre bike. My bike for example, has a shit load of power, but it can't hold a candle to the newest 750 class bikes out there. That combined with the fact that it is as heavy as a tank, any new purchase for me will be a 750.

It's pretty sobering to think that I can't race a 600 in a straight line because their top speed is just a little higher than mine, and a 750 will downright spank my ass.

[GixxerPete]

Ok, for all you poopy pants that keep saying "you can never use 100% of liter bike", all I can say is

I (along with the rest of the world) can't use "100%" of a 600 on the street. Hell, I'm not sure I could use 100% of 250 on the street. Does that mean we should all ride 250s? Hell no! I can't use 100% of my 1000 all of the time, but I sure as shit can use 100% of it some of the time, and it's that some of the time that makes liter bikes rock.

For the experienced (also read: disciplined) rider, I think liter bikes are easier to ride fast on the street. You don't have to row the gear box contstantly, in fact 1 or 2 gears is all that's needed for most twisty roads. Without having to worry about things like gear selection and proper RPM, you can focus on your lines etc, just using the grunt to pull you out of corners. I rarely go over 10K on the tach in the twisties, as my bike will pull from 4-5K as hard I really ever need on the street. But for those long straightaways where I can really open it up, nothing thrills like a liter bike.

And for those who say "anyone can go fast in a straight line" or "going fast in a straight line is boring", well it sure it isn't if you have a really fast bike! Even in full-tuck, laying on the tank, hitting even the smallest rise/dip in the road, WOT in 4th gear at 150+ mph will cause instant power wheelies. Try THAT on a 600. You really have to be on top of your game, and make damn sure you know where you're pointing it any time you nail it on a liter bike, cuz shit is gonna happen, and in a big hurry! After a year on my 1000 (and a year on a Busa prior to that) I'm still not jaded by my bike, it's a rush every time I nail that sumbitch.

And the little things, like trolling around town at 2K in 3rd, and it still pulls. Or passing on the freeway is never more than a twist of the wrist away, banging gears not required. And if you're into the wheelies, nothing can hoist em and hold em like a liter bike.

Nothing against 600s. They are getting more and more potent all the time, and are by no means a "beginner's bike" IMO. I don't see them as less/worse than a liter bike, just different. It's a different riding experience, kinda like a twin is a different experience than an inline. Not better or worse, just different. Some riders LIKE rowing the gearbox and feeling like they are thrashing the bike more, or having the lightest, most flickable package. A 600 is perfect for that.

And last but not least, for those saying, "guys on liter bikes are just compensating for something else", you're just jealous can you can't handle the POWAH, sucka!

[Mr. Clean]

I still think my 750 is easier, or rather, more confidence inspiring in the twisties than the 1000. Quicker turn in, better brakes, better handling, lighter and less chance of getting in trouble if you roll on hard. Also I think rowing the gearbox helps make you a better rider. But goddamn that thing is fun as hell to open up wide and have it slam you against your solo seat. Eh, the 750 does that still...Just not as much OOMPH