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Well as the subject states I am a christian that mainly listens to secular music. I just find that most "christian music" is just knock offs of secular band that never really break ground or try anything new. Most of the music I like is either electronic, industrial, death metal(for lack of a better word), and gothic bands. My taste in music really boils down to being very dark and gothic sounding. Let's face facts. Not very many Godly band are going to be dark gothic bands.:laughing So I'm kinda stuck in a hard place here as most christian music just sounds too popie panty waist to me. So whats a man of God to do??:confused
 

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I don't know about all that dark gothic stuff bro. I myself like music that lifts my spirits not bring them down. I know they have chrisitan hard rock if you want I can get you some of the bands, Let me know
 

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Yeah I've heard lots of pretty cool underground "christian bands" that play hard stuff on the internet. It's just hard to find a place that sells them.:( Don't get me wrong I still enjoy praise and worship music; it's an integral part of my walk with the Lord, but when I get the urge to listen to something hard...:evilgrin
 

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RRGuy,

You need to listen to what the lyrics are saying. If they are talking about sex, drugs, satan and any other worldly thing that they are not helping you in your walk with God. Think about it like this, While you are riding in your car or sitting in your house listening to this gothic style music, God is sitting there also. If you are not communicating with him and focusing on your music than He is not going to want to be there. I guess it goes back to the bumper sticker "WWJD". As I am listening to contempory christian music, I am in the mind set of praising God.:draggin
 

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RRGuy,

You need to listen to what the lyrics are saying.
That's my criteria - if I know a song has offensive or overtly non-Christian lyrics, I change the station or skip to the next song on the CD or mute the volume until the offensive part has passed.

Here is a starting place if you are looking for decent Christian rock bands: Rock for Life . It is a website of bands that are pro-life, and many if not most of them are Christian.

If you are looking for where to buy them, you may be able to buy it online through a music club or check the band's website and contact them to see how you can purchase their music. Or, check out some of the music mega-stores like Coconuts or Rolling Stone.
 

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RRGuy,

You need to listen to what the lyrics are saying. If they are talking about sex, drugs, satan and any other worldly thing that they are not helping you in your walk with God. Think about it like this, While you are riding in your car or sitting in your house listening to this gothic style music, God is sitting there also. If you are not communicating with him and focusing on your music than He is not going to want to be there. I guess it goes back to the bumper sticker "WWJD". As I am listening to contempory christian music, I am in the mind set of praising God.:draggin
Maybe I'm coming across here wrong.:confused I won't listen to music that has those lyrics that you mentioned or anything blasphemous. Heck most of the time the music I listen to doesn't even have lyrics. There are plenty of dark bands out there that don't even have cursing in thier lyrics. I gave up buying into the bands that have harsh lyrics a while back as like you said it does nothing for my walk.:shake
 

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Sorry for the mis understanding. If there are no lyrics, listen away and make your own words.
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Very good post here I would agree with most of the guys on this. What you feed your soul through music does affect you in many ways.

A question I ask myself when the music has no words is what does the music make me feel like? Is it comforting? Or does it create rebellion or aggressive ideas? Or is it just background music... I think how music makes us feel can be as important as what the lyrics might be saying too.

One thing I would like to point out too, is we have a choice to support who we want with our $$$ and I prefer to spend mine as often as possible with people who share my Christian faith.

Bottom line is The Lord in time will direct your steps in what to listen to... what you listen to today may be cool but in 5 years it may offend you... Some of the music I listened to does nothing for me now and some of what I listen to now I would never have listened to 10 years ago...
 

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Very good post here I would agree with most of the guys on this. What you feed your soul through music does affect you in many ways.

A question I ask myself when the music has no words is what does the music make me feel like? Is it comforting? Or does it create rebellion or aggressive ideas? Or is it just background music... I think how music makes us feel can be as important as what the lyrics might be saying too.

One thing I would like to point out too, is we have a choice to support who we want with our $$$ and I prefer to spend mine as often as possible with people who share my Christian faith.

Bottom line is The Lord in time will direct your steps in what to listen to... what you listen to today may be cool but in 5 years it may offend you... Some of the music I listened to does nothing for me now and some of what I listen to now I would never have listened to 10 years ago...
I am listening bros...:confused soul searching too...:confused Thanks for the posts!:thumb
 

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rrguy, hey bro I still listen to all types of music. There are times when I get stupid:bluecreep :cigar and have the nerve to get an atitude towards God, I listen to some old hard core rap.:mad Then there are day I just don't what to hear any gospel music, and I listen to what ever.:confused

I remember what my pastor said one Sunday morning. He said,"Know what you are feeding your soul." Music is powerful! If you study the history of satan:mad what you will find out is this. Satan hole purpose was to praise God. He was the best angle when it came to praiseing God.

rrGuy, my point is this. Pray and ask God to send some music your way that appeals to your taste in music.:D :p

I know where you are coming from, because I use to DJ:dj
 

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Thanks brother.
 

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Some very good Christian bands that are of the harder nature are Zao , Focused , Brethern , Plastic Soul Impairment , Overcome , and my favorite hardcore band musically , Strongarm . Overcome's *When Beauty Dies* is just excellent : very raw , heavy and tight : how many bands thank Slayer as a musical influence then do an anti-pornography song ? :laughing . Strongarm is amazingly tight , but its all straight up evangelizing in the lyrics which isn't my thing but they're just awesome.
 

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I don`t want to sound all stuff shirted,but I use to sing and play for satan in demonic metal bands.The Lord got me and now I gladly play for Him.
I`m sure you`ve heard the expression and scriptual references to "giving a sacrafice of praise."A sacrifice is giving up something,usually at a loss or something you don`t want to give up.
There is a biblical purpose for teaching music.
"Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom,teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord"

-Colassians 3:16
Psalms(psallo in greek means scripture set to music.)
Hyms(humneo-celebrate God in song.)
"spiritual songs"(odaios pneumatikos-any gospel music that reflects the experience of knowing God.

Music clearly effects people,but it also effects the spiritual atmosphere of our lives and the lives of others.

If not properly used,music can conflict with the ways God intended it for.The corrupt world has perverted the gift given to us.The gift to worship and praise to Glorify Him.
I believe music is a spiritual discipline...and like any discipline can be brought into the subjection of spiritual principles.
The words mind,muse and music are closely related.
The mind is the battlefield where the enemy often attacks,but we are to what?
"Take into captivity EVERY thought to the obedience of Christ."
-2nd Corinthians 10:5
It`s not easy to give up things we love,but when it`s for the Lord,you are blessed 100 fold.It don`t even seem like a sacrifice because it is no longer the flesh driven by worldly music but the spirit lifted by Godly music.
I pray the Spirit blesses you all.

hasta la taco! baby :ar15
 

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Maybe I'm coming across here wrong.:confused I won't listen to music that has those lyrics that you mentioned or anything blasphemous. Heck most of the time the music I listen to doesn't even have lyrics. There are plenty of dark bands out there that don't even have cursing in thier lyrics. I gave up buying into the bands that have harsh lyrics a while back as like you said it does nothing for my walk.:shake
Just something to think about?Music comes from the word muse.

Music-Melody or harmony;any succession of sounds so modulated as to please the ear,or any combination of simultanious sounds in accordance or harmony.Music is vocal or instrumental."
Muse-1.)Properly,song;but in usage the deity or power of poetry.Thats why poets in modern times just like in ancient summon the aid of the Muse of Muses,or in other words,the genius of poetry.2.)Deep thought;close attention or contemplation which abstracts the mind from passing scenes(absence of mind.)
Melody-An agreeable succession of sounds;a succession of sounds so regulated and modulated as to please the ear.To constitute melody,the sounds must be arranged according to the laws of rythmus,measure,or the due proportion of the movements to each other.
Harmony-A setting together,a closure or seam,agreement,concert...1.)The just adaption of parts to each other,in any system or composition of things,intended to form a connected whole.2.)Just proportion of sound;or that union of sounds in two or more intervals which please the ear,or succession of such sounds called chords.

According to Webster the word "ode" or "song" is "a short poem or song;a poetical composition proper to be set to music or sung;a lyric poem."This rudiment we have chosen to call the LYRICS because it identifies the intended message-whether vocal or INSTRUMENTAL.This seed of music involves the message,often in poetic form,intended to be portrayed to the listener.(THAT`S YOU!)This occurs "SILENTLY" as the definition of MUSE indicates,and is a DEEPLY internal pondering that is often not expressed verbally or vocally.

Rhythm is the speed at which the song is sung,and the duration of the individual noteswithin the song.It is the "proportion which the parts of the motion have to each other."Rhythm is a very important rudiment,but its place is within,or in subjection to melody,harmony and lyrics.It`s supposed to support,not dominate.The message,and its expression through melody and harmony are to have priority.

Alot of the rythyms in these "Dark Bands" are used in this way.No lyrics but...
 

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Great thread guy's!
I have fought this battle for a while myself.
Not into the gothic metal or grung rock but always loved great hard rock.Van Halen,Def Lepard, Bon Jovi, Even a little Motley Crue.
After I was saved it convicted me real quick that the message I was getting was of the world and worldy things. It did'nt make me want to do rottewn things but it made me focus more on personal pleasure and self worship.
I started trying to listen to contemp. Christian music but found that most was a great vocal with some computerizes background music and was not very interesting to listen to so I started listening mostly to talk radio and the many radio evengelist.
Over time I found more and more Christian music I liked and bought CD's.
I now listen to 3rd day, Jars of Clay,MercyMe..........
I know these guy's are not what I was listening to, but they satisfy my taste now as I believe that God changed my taste .
I think if you pray for God to bring you some satisfying music to you it will be done.
I do admit that if I am channel surfing and I hear Metalica's Enter Sandman on the radio it is hard to not turn it wide open and just head bang for a couple of minutes but I am now convicted not to.
I know I may be quoting what others have said in this thread but these are my feelings on this also.
These guy's on here are a wealth of information.
Pray about it! I t worked for me.
 

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as a christion God will convict you in his time.
If its wrong for your life you will know start to feel Gods tug on your heart.
The bible also commands us to think on good things not negative so i would think if the music makes you think negative you should consider that verse.





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Like others have stated, I listen mostly to hard rock, and it seems that much of the popular contemporary Christian music is too light for my music taste. I listen to bands like Creed and P.O.D. that have spiritual messages, but there doesn't seem to be too many bands out there that combine a Christian message with hard rock (not that I've found yet, anyway). Maybe God will change my tastes, or maybe He will lead me to the kind of music I'm looking for. As long as I seek His will I know something good will happen.;)
Joel, thanks for your suggestions; I'll check into those.
 

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Serial Thriller said:
, but there doesn't seem to be too many bands out there that combine a Christian message with hard rock (not that I've found yet, anyway
Hey Serial Thriller,
Check out STAVESACRE.I saw them a couple of times and they are pretty heavy.I rapped with the lead singer at The Electric Factory in Philly.He`s cool and he loves the Lord.
 
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