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I went down to my local Suzuki dealership on my birthday, since I had the day off, to get my new (new to me) Hayabusa inspected, so I could get it registered in Maryland. Unlike some states, Maryland does not require annual inspections; just at the time of purchase, before registration can be completed. I brought the bike to the shop in my truck, so there could be no doubt I was obeying the rules, and because the MD state patrol sometimes hangs out there to check the bikes being inspected.

I was seen right away, but as I feared there was a MD state police cruiser parked in the lot. My bike failed because the mirrors were too small (less than 7 sq inches); it had no side reflectors; and finally because the LED undertail lights (turn signals and brake lights), although working perfectly, didn't have the raised letters"DOT" on the lens or lamps. The state police officer was standing nearby when they gave me the inspection sheet and went over the failures with me.

I pointed out to the inspector that Maryland State Law says motorcycles must have a minimum of one reflector in the rear, which I have. I also pointed out that state law also says motorcycles are exempt from the requirement for electric turn signals, plus there is no mention in state law of the size for rear view mirrors on motorcycles. The inspector said he was following the Maryland Vehicle Inspection Handbook, which he happily showed me. When I pointed out that this Handbook is not state law, just an administrative regulation by the Maryland DOT, he seemed a little confused.

At this point I noticed in the "lighting" section of the handbook that I was flipping through stated "all lamps, lenses, and reflectors must be approved." Then I noticed on the inspection sheet that the inspector had failed my turn signals and brake lights because of the lack of raised "DOT" letters. He had actually written "No raised DOT letters" in the remarks area. When I asked the inspector how they determined my lights weren't approved, the state cop chimed in and said, "DOT places the raised letters on all lighting equipment to show they're approved."

I said, "No, they don't. DOT doesn't have the authority to approve or disapprove any vehicle or equipment. The raised letters "DOT" are put on some lighting equipment by the manufacturer to voluntarily attest that the equipment meets all federal requirements. It's isn't an approval by DOT, and it isn't required by federal law."

He then said, "Well, that's the way we're interpreting the regulation and that's the requirement in Maryland."

When I asked how the state administrative regulations could violate state law, specifically that motorcycles aren't required to have electric turn signals, he said, "Well, that's up to the Director of Maryland DOT, but those are the rules."

Then I saw the requirement in the handbook for two reflectors on each side of the bike (amber forward and red to the rear), not just one in the rear as the state law requires. When I asked the state cop about that he said "It's just like the turn signals, the Director of Maryland DOT has set stricter rules."

When I asked him what authority the Director of Maryland DOT has to alter state law without legislative approval, he couldn't give me an answer. He told me, "If you think there's a mistake you should call or write the Maryland DOT about it, but the shop is just following the rules."

The I asked, "I see an awful lot of cars and trucks with LEDs, how is it they get passed in their Maryland inspection..? I don't know of any LEDs that have the raised DOT letters." The inspector said,"We just inspect motorcycles, not cars." So I flipped to the section for cars, and there wasn't any phrase, "all lamps, lenses, and reflectors must be approved." "Well, that explains it", I said. They pass these 4-wheelers because there's no requirement for their lights to be "approved". When I asked the cop if he thought the DOT was discriminating against motorcyclists, he just shrugged.

So I went home and took the plate off my old 'Busa and installed it on the new 'Busa. I sold the old 'Busa this week, and the new owner picks it up on Saturday. He lives in another state. The plate is good for another 9 months, and then I can renew through the mail. I still intend to get the bike registered, but now I have to find a shop that isn't as retarded as my usual shop. But what am I supposed to do if all the inspectors follow the same insanity..?

Do any of you have the same trouble getting your bikes inspected with after-market parts..?
 

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Wow...

Bring it in to the side of shop (by the garage door).
Walk in to shop and say my hello's.

Bout a minute later, the owner of the shop comes out get's my reg.
Checks tire tread, brake pad thickness.
turn key to on, checks brake light and turn signals are functional. Also checks the headlight is on.
Checks to see if the horn works (aka newbie nabber - how many times newbies hit the start button vs the horn)


Walks in...comes out with my sticker.

sum it up
Checks to see if you have decent tires, brake pads, working lights and that you horn goes beep-beep.
 

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pauldun170 said:
In some states, you would have been taking a ride on the taser for all that yappin to the trooper.
+1

But MFF has a badge of his own to back him up :laughing


I don't know what they do anywhere to inspect bikes....I've owned/driven MC since I was about 17/12 and never got a inspection on one ever :shrug Been pulled over on them in about 5 different states and not once mentioned or cited for it. :shrug
 

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MFFJM2 said:
But what am I supposed to do if all the inspectors follow the same insanity..?

This is where your friendly neighborhood mexican comes in handy... take it to a junky ass shop in a sketchy neighborhood and get it inspected there. Trust me, they wont fine tooth comb your reflectors and whatnot.
 

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timy said:
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I don't know what they do anywhere to inspect bikes....I've owned/driven MC since I was about 17/12 and never got a inspection on one ever :shrug Been pulled over on them in about 5 different states and not once mentioned or cited for it. :shrug
What...you riding one of those motorized scateboards nowadays?

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/Motorcycles.htm

Motorcycle inspection
Following initial inspection, available year-round, motorcycles are now due for inspection from April through October. Motorcycles under 50CCs are not subject to inspection.

To pass inspection, you must have:

* License plates with current decal and current registration
* Proof of insurance
* Valid motorcycle driver license
* Steering, suspension, and wheel alignment
* Handlebar grips that are not higher than your shoulders when you are seated on the motorcycle in normal driving position
* Horn
* Red rear light and reflector
* Stop light
* Head light
* Rear view mirror
* Exhaust system
* Tires
* Seat, hand holds, and foot rests
* Adequate brakes (all motorcycles made after 1974 require brakes on front and rear wheels.)
 

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MD must be cracking down. Coworker who lives in MD bought a new-to-him ZX14 and was gigged for the reflectors and no chain guard when he took it to get inspected.


And no... I haven't had any probs with having bikes pass inspection.
 

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Maryland is a bullshit state when it comes to all the "vehicle" inspection crap they put you through. I cant wait to move away from here ( 30 days and counting).

When I went to get my truck inspected I ended up having to remove my front window tint which is the exact same percent tint as my factory rear windows to get it to pass the "inspection". You could read a book through my tint.

As for my TL. I've had it since Dec 07 and still haven't got it registered in MD. My bike failed inspection because the guy who had the bike before me had cut the mudflap (not by much because it still looked hideous) and moved the blinkers from the stock posistion to the mudflap. That wasn't good enough for the nazi safety inspectors. I also didn't have the reflectors so I got hit for that. The inspector bitched about my non stock exaust (Yoshimura Stainless slip ons). Here is the best one. They wouldn't pass my bike with the solo seat cap on it. I would of had to bring down the rear seat to get it to pass. So I asked him if I took the rear footpegs off would it make a difference. He indicated they could pass it if there were no rear footpegs. I laughed my ass off because who in their right mind would try to ride bitch on the back of a TLR with THAT solo cap?

Maryland is just trying to nickel and dime you to death. I think the DOT director is a napolean complexed A HOLE!!!
 

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pauldun170 said:
What...you riding one of those motorized scateboards nowadays?

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/Motorcycles.htm

Motorcycle inspection
Following initial inspection, available year-round, motorcycles are now due for inspection from April through October. Motorcycles under 50CCs are not subject to inspection.

To pass inspection, you must have:

* License plates with current decal and current registration
* Proof of insurance
* Valid motorcycle driver license
* Steering, suspension, and wheel alignment
* Handlebar grips that are not higher than your shoulders when you are seated on the motorcycle in normal driving position
* Horn
* Red rear light and reflector
* Stop light
* Head light
* Rear view mirror
* Exhaust system
* Tires
* Seat, hand holds, and foot rests
* Adequate brakes (all motorcycles made after 1974 require brakes on front and rear wheels.)
Owned Kat 1100/NC
Owned zx6r/NJ/PA
Owned 250 ninja/NJ
Owned zx12r/nj/PA
Brothers street legal 250 dirtbike/NC/FL
Owned 125 eliminator/FL/NJ/NY
Ex Brother in Laws TLR1000/NJ
Brothers Duc 916/FL/MD

Not one had inspection stickers was stopped by police on the TL,6r,12r,125,Kat been stopped in NYC,PA,NJ,FL,NC,VA and not once cited for it....I was surprised about the VA one cause there know to be pricks when it comes to out of state drivers. The rest I don't know many people in those states that even inspect or even care to and I know alot of riders in each of those states.
 

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The MD inspection sticker is required in order to obtain the MD registration and a MD title. You can get a temporary MD registration for 15 days, if you pay the fee, so you can presumably ride the bike to the inspection station to get it inspected. Anyone who hasn't gotten their bike inspected in Maryland doesn't have a permanent Maryland registration and no legitimate MD plates. Riding a bike without plates or stolen or otherwise false plates is a fast way to get pulled over. When the cop asks for your license he will see if you're a MD resident. If you're a MD resident riding a motorcycle without MD plates or registration they will impound your bike. Failing to install a proper MD plate, even with legitimate MD registration, is a $45 fine, and they can still impound your bike...although they might give you a break.

The Maryland registration from my former bike was for a Hayabusa, and my new bike is a Hayabusa (the model differences between an '00 and an '06 are so slight only an owner or bike enthusiast would know the difference), I was wondering if I continued using the plate from the old bike how long the subterfuge would last, or would it ever be discovered. Even if a cop pulls you over they only ever ask for your registration, DL, and proof of insurance. I still have the proof of insurance card from the old bike, so the VIN would match up on both it and the registration, at least for the next 9 months or so. The cop would have to get out of his car and kneel down and get the VIN off my bike to see that it isn't the right one, and even then they're pretty close.

I've written a letter to the Maryland DOT explaining how their inspections for motorcycles are bogus and asking for an explanation. I thought I'd also write to the Washington Post to see if they'd like to do a little investigation to see if Maryland DOT is following state and federal statutes. Maryland DOT is actually being counter-productive by adding bogus requirements to the safety inspection, because many riders who would otherwise get their bikes inspected don't bother. Then comes the potential for a high speed chase and collision resulting in death or serious injuries because many riders will run if they see blue lights simply because they haven't gotten their bikes inspected and legally registered. This doesn't make the roads safer, it makes them less safe.
 

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North Carolina apparently pulls the same shit... i researched their state laws on-line to find out what the requirements were for bike inspection, then found out from a guy on another board that they failed him for something that wasn't on the list... Now i just have to cross my fingers when i send the bike up.

Nice debate with the Trooper, tho... i suspect that if someone like me tried hitting him with that the discussion would be a lot shorter and more painful :laughing

South Carolina = no inspection, though the insurance industry has bought some heavy-duty legislation on that paperwork...
 

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I guess that's your Happy B-Day from the state of Maryland. Instead of logically discussing the issue with them, using pesky facts, you might have had a better chance just saying "Hey its my birthday". :rolleyes I'm curious to see if anything becomes of your letters.
I guess there is one thing that is easier in NY, the land of supreme bureaucratic stupidity. The last time I went for inspection I hadn't removed all my riding gear before they were slapping the new sticker on (didn't buy the bike there, and they don't even sell Kawasakis).
 

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Maryland? Don't the cops down there launch their cruisers over the median into oncoming traffic when chasing bikes?

Raised DOT letters on the lenses, indeed.
 

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The Maryland registration from my former bike was for a Hayabusa, and my new bike is a Hayabusa (the model differences between an '00 and an '06 are so slight only an owner or bike enthusiast would know the difference), I was wondering if I continued using the plate from the old bike how long the subterfuge would last, or would it ever be discovered. Even if a cop pulls you over they only ever ask for your registration, DL, and proof of insurance. I still have the proof of insurance card from the old bike, so the VIN would match up on both it and the registration, at least for the next 9 months or so. The cop would have to get out of his car and kneel down and get the VIN off my bike to see that it isn't the right one, and even then they're pretty close.
A friend did that with a Chevy Van. He had a '73, then bought an '81 with no title. He tried to get a title for it, but gave up after a while. He ended up just using the plate from the '73. For years he did this. He'd been pulled over several times by different agencies, none ever noticed.

The only difference in your case is the new owner is going to register your old bike in his name. So your old registration will likely be no longer valid. If any officer runs your plate, it's gonna come back cancelled.

I'm not sure if the officers in Maryland have access to MVD info, but here in NM they do.
 

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A friend did that with a Chevy Van. He had a '73, then bought an '81 with no title. He tried to get a title for it, but gave up after a while. He ended up just using the plate from the '73. For years he did this. He'd been pulled over several times by different agencies, none ever noticed.

The only difference in your case is the new owner is going to register your old bike in his name. So your old registration will likely be no longer valid. If any officer runs your plate, it's gonna come back cancelled.

I'm not sure if the officers in Maryland have access to MVD info, but here in NM they do.
Not exactly. The new owner is buying the bike to turn it into a trike as a project. It could take him months or longer before the finished trike is ready to be licensed, if ever. I am permitted, under MD law, to transfer the plates from my old bike to my new one, but I can't do that until I get passed the stupid vehicle inspection. You'd think the state would want the 6% tax I owe them from the sale. I won't be using the old plates any longer than it takes to get an inspection, but it occurred to me that I might be able to get away with this for awhile. However, I will be cancelling the insurance as soon as the old bike departs on Saturday, and then I will no longer get a proof of insurance on the old bike (insurance card). The new bike's insurance card I already have, but it has the new VIN prominently displayed and only the stupidest cop would miss that the registration and insurance card have different VINs. I will just have to find a place in MD where inspecting a motorcycle is done with common sense.
 
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