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How bad is a 94 CBR600F2 to start off on after MSF, the guys I know with CBRs told me the only time you get in to trouble is when you try to do some thing stupid, like a wheelie and you barley know how to ride. But for the most part they told me, if you go to MSF and practice riding in closed enviroments like empty parking lots and such, you'll be fine. Just as long your carefull with it. A lot of people say start off on a 250 but I meet a lot of people who started off with 600s and their fine. So just thought I would actulay ask the gus who know the bike best. I also sat on one and it felt a lot better than a 250cc bike.
 

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If your ego won't let you start on a Ninja 250, look into getting a Ninja 500. Save the 600SS's until you get some experience (by that, I mean miles, not time).
 

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If your ego won't let you start on a Ninja 250

Ego? :rolleyes: yea, right you know every thing about me. So if I feel uncomfortable on a certain bike its just my ego getting in the way. Right.......
 

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You could certianly pick a worse bike to start on. You will learn faster and better on a smaller bike to begin with but I started on a F3 so I can't say much. I was also 30 when I started riding and have a healthy does of respect for the bike. I still dropped it twice and have dropped my current bike once. I think your far better off with a F2 over a new 600RR or F4i and since your pretty well set on a 600SS this would be a good starter bike. You should be able to resell it for roughly the same as you bought it for as long as you don't trash it too badly. Just don't let your right wrist take control of your brain. Ride safe and have fun.
 

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The reason I used a 94 CBR600 is because I know I can find a bike like that one in alright shape with higher miles that may have been dropped a time or two. If I drop it, then no real loss, the bike wasn't perfect to begin with. I grew up around fast cars, I'm not some college kid who wants a bike to pick up chicks. I have seen what a fast car can do with some one with zero respect for it, I have barried a couple of those people. So, the same respect transfers over. I dont regard a bike as a "toy" either.
 

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bah, a 250cc bike is not really a bike... u will get sick of it in a month... a 91 or newer cbr600 will be great for a first bike, u cant break them... and u can get them for a good price...
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You'll get into a lot less trouble on a F2, than a new 600ss. Many people I have talked to learned on F2's and F3's and recommend them. I say go for it, but get the gear and take it slow.

Note: My F4i is my first bike, and 1 season and 5600 miles later I still haven't had that first drop. KNOCK ON WOOD

Just don'g get ahead of yourself or be pressured by friends.
 

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Ego? :rolleyes: yea, right you know every thing about me. So if I feel uncomfortable on a certain bike its just my ego getting in the way. Right.......
I learned enough about you just from this response...

Good luck with the MSF...I'll give you limited props for that at least.
 

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Thanks guys, I found a couple for a little under $3K, that are in nice shape with around 15K miles on them.



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I learned enough about you just from this response...

Oh yea, whats that? you dont know a god damn thing about me pal, really you dont.
 

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gixxerdreaming said:
Thanks guys, I found a couple for a little under $3K, that are in nice shape with around 15K miles on them.

Oh yea, whats that? you dont know a god damn thing about me pal, really you dont.

Easy guys....... Lets keep it civil......... :)

Gixxerdreaming, you asked for an opinion and fzr ace simply gave his. If your not prepared to hear what others have to say, you may not want to post vague questions....

Im of the opinion smaller is better. And those that think a 250cc bike isnt a 'real' bike.... thats pure testosterone speaking. :shrug




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His comment was fine and I am looking in to a Ninja 500 if I can find one at a good price, but his comment about "ego" was uncalled for and I'm not to keen on letting some one berate me to say the least. Yea dig, I dont got nothing against him, his opinion was fine. But its just the whole "ego" thing that rubbed me the wrong way. Esp, since they guy does not even know me. Like I said, I dont have anything against brian I really dont. I didn't insult the 250, I just sat on one and it didn't feel right.

Speaking of 250s how ever, whats the deal with a CBR250, I saw some thing about one not to long back, but no one ever talks about them. I have been to the Kawi dealers in Houston when my buddy had a Kawi, he needed parts on several ocasions and we got bad service and that kind of burned me in to not wanting to deal with them. So thats why I am hesitant to deal with them.
 

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His comment was fine and I am looking in to a Ninja 500 if I can find one at a good price, but his comment about "ego" was uncalled for and I'm not to keen on letting some one berate me to say the least. Yea dig, I dont got nothing against him, his opinion was fine. But its just the whole "ego" thing that rubbed me the wrong way. Esp, since they guy does not even know me. Like I said, I dont have anything against brian I really dont. I didn't insult the 250, I just sat on one and it didn't feel right.

Speaking of 250s how ever, whats the deal with a CBR250, I saw some thing about one not to long back, but no one ever talks about them. I have been to the Kawi dealers in Houston when my buddy had a Kawi, he needed parts on several ocasions and we got bad service and that kind of burned me in to not wanting to deal with them. So thats why I am hesitant to deal with them.
No biggie man. Try to let the meager stuff blow over your head...I'm sure he meant nothing by it, but you'd be surprised at all the newer riders claiming they can ride a liter bike to the fullest extent.... anyway......

The cbr250 is an overseas model. I wish they'd make it and the cbr400 in the states, but the fact is, USA is driven by testosterone. Everything has to be 'bigger' pr it isnt as good. :shrug

As far a ninja250 or 500, I've had a 250 and thought it was a great bike. I've ridden a 500 and its basically a faster version of the 250. If a Kaw dealer gave you bad service, its just that....the kaw dealer sucks and you should try another dealer; perhaps an online one. I'd take the msf course first. You'll ride 125cc and 250cc in that, then you'll have a better feel for what you need. I have a feeling a ninja500 wouldnt be a bad start for you, but even though its a 500 its still a very fast capable bike. You can ask 10 people their opinion of a best starter bike and you'll get 10 different answers. What you might want to do is consider this.... this first bike will not be your last one, so for me its easier to 'grow into' a bike by starting smaller and working up.
 

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I think a F2 will be a good bike o start on if you hve respect for it and it sounds like you do. Take the MSF course and decide after you take it.
 

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How bad is a 94 CBR600F2 to start off on after MSF, the guys I know with CBRs told me the only time you get in to trouble is when you try to do some thing stupid, like a wheelie and you barley know how to ride. But for the most part they told me, if you go to MSF and practice riding in closed enviroments like empty parking lots and such, you'll be fine. Just as long your carefull with it. A lot of people say start off on a 250 but I meet a lot of people who started off with 600s and their fine. So just thought I would actulay ask the gus who know the bike best. I also sat on one and it felt a lot better than a 250cc bike.
I bought my bike in April of this year and never rode on the street, just dirt. Took the MSF class and used their 125cc bikes for the test. I am very happy with my 600 as I learned you have to be very aggressive on the road otherwise you'll get ran over. If you don't have enough power to move out of the way quick enough it would suck to be you! I would start with a 600 and move to the litre bike if you want later. I may do that next year, but to early to tell with so many new bikes coming out. Good Luck dude!
 

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I bought my bike in April of this year and never rode on the street, just dirt. Took the MSF class and used their 125cc bikes for the test. I am very happy with my 600 as I learned you have to be very aggressive on the road otherwise you'll get ran over. If you don't have enough power to move out of the way quick enough it would suck to be you! I would start with a 600 and move to the litre bike if you want later. I may do that next year, but to early to tell with so many new bikes coming out. Good Luck dude!
I'm sorry, but you are not going to get run over just because you are on a 250. The 250s have enough power to get you into and out of the same problems a 600 can, they just do it a little slower. A 250 is still going to allow you to accelerate out of a bad situation, or even better brake out of a bad situation. In most instances, it is better to slow down to aviod a situation than speed up. Speeding up may just introduce you to an even worse problem. It's my opinion, but I don't think thats a reason to get a 600.
 

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I'm sorry, but you are not going to get run over just because you are on a 250. The 250s have enough power to get you into and out of the same problems a 600 can, they just do it a little slower. A 250 is still going to allow you to accelerate out of a bad situation, or even better brake out of a bad situation. In most instances, it is better to slow down to aviod a situation than speed up. Speeding up may just introduce you to an even worse problem. It's my opinion, but I don't think thats a reason to get a 600.
Sounds like a very opinioned forum. More opinions the better as everyone has there own experiences. Thanks TXf4i!
 

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Well personally I do think it depends on the person. I however, did not want to mess up a newer bike than the crappy little GS450L that I started on. I dropped it and everything numerous times. I knew nothing about riding bikes though and when I started on the suzuki I had for 4 months before I got the CBR. I'm glad I did, because the power of the GS was NOTHING at all next to my CBR. I'm throttle crazy so I drove it around the first night I had it and fell in love with it. Honestly it does depend on the person, but I don't know well enough to make that judgement call. Personally I was glad I had a practice bike (if only for a few months) before I got my CBR.

Good luck.:D
 

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If you've got to have a full fairing 600ss, the F2 is one of the best ones to get. I have ridden mine about 2,500 miles and have really loved it.

But Babette does have a good point if you would like to get a cheaper bike to ride until you are comfortable on one.

Either way, take the MSF and ride in a quiet neighborhood for a while until you're ready for a busier street.
 

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I started on a '97 zx-6r but i already had 7 years riding experience on dirt and with dual-sports on the road. I think an F2 is a perfect starter bike. You have to remember, that even though it's an older 600 it still has enough power to get you in trouble. Just be careful.
 

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For any newbies Id reccomend a 250-500cc bike depending on their size. Theyre much more forgiving than their 100hp 600cc counterparrts. If MUST buy a 600cc SS for you first bike then an F2 or FZR 600 is a good choice.

FZR Ace wasnt talking about you specificly when he said 'youre ego' he mean the ego newbies tend to have that makes them embarassed to ride a 250.
 
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