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I've removed all of the commentary from these letters. If you are interested in the complete article go here http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17446

Lance Corporal George Batton of the United States Marine Corps, who returned from Iraq in September (after serving in MP company Alpha), writes the following:

"You'd be surprised at how many of the guys I talked to in my company and others believed that the president's scare about Saddam's WMD was a bunch of bullshit and that the real motivation for this war was only about money. There was also a lot of crap that many companies, not just marine companies, had to go through with not getting enough equipment to fulfill their missions when they crossed the border. It was a miracle that our company did what it did the two months it was staying in Iraq during the war.... We were promised to go home on June 8th, and found out that it was a lie and we got stuck doing missions for an extra three months. Even some of the most radical conservatives in our company including our company gunnery sergeant got a real bad taste in their mouth about the Marine corps, and maybe even president Bush."

Here's what Specialist Mike Prysner of the U.S. Army wrote:

"Dear Mike: I'm writing from the trenches of a war, not knowing why I'm here or when I'm leaving. I've toppled statues and vandalized portraits, while wearing an American flag on my sleeve, and struggling to learn how to understand... I joined the army as soon as I was eligible – turned down a writing scholarship to a state university, eager to serve my country, ready to die for the ideals I fell in love with. Two years later I found myself moments away from a landing onto a pitch black airstrip, ready to charge into a country I didn't believe I belonged in. My time in Iraq has always involved finding things to convince myself that I can be proud of my actions; that I was a part of something just. But no matter what pro-war argument I came up with, I pictured my smirking commander-in-chief, thinking he was fooling a nation..."

An Army private, still in Iraq and wishing to remain anonymous, writes:

"I would like to tell you how difficult it is to serve under a man who was never elected. Because he is the president and my boss, I have to be very careful as to who and what i say about him. This also concerns me a great deal... to limit the military's voice is to limit exactly what America stands for... and the greater percentage of us feel completely underpowered. He continually sets my friends, my family, and several others in a kind of danger that frightens me beyond belief. I know several other soldiers who feel the same way and discuss the situation with me on a regular basis."

Jerry Oliver of the U.S. Army, who has just returned from Baghdad, writes:

"I have just returned home from "Operation Iraqi Freedom." I spent 5 months in Baghdad, and a total of 3 years in the U.S. Army. I was recently discharged with Honorable valor and returned to the States only to be horrified by what I've seen my country turn into. I'm now 22 years old and have discovered America is such a complicated place to live, and moreover, Americans are almost oblivious to what's been happening to their country. America has become "1984." Homeland security is teaching us to spy on one another and forcing us to become anti-social. Americans are willingly sacrificing our freedoms in the name of security, the same Freedoms I was willing to put my life on the line for. The constitution is in jeopardy. As Gen. Tommy Franks said, (broken down of course) One more terrorist attack and the constitution will hold no meaning."

And a Specialist in the U.S. Army wrote about the capture of Saddam Hussein:

"Wow, 130,000 troops on the ground, nearly 500 deaths and over a billion dollars a day, but they caught a guy living in a hole. Am I supposed to be dazzled?"

A mother writing on behalf of her son (whose name we have withheld) wrote:

"My son said that this is the worst it's been since the "end" of the war. He said the troops have been given new rules of engagement, and that they are to "take out" any persons who aggress on the Americans, even if it results in "collateral" damage. Unfortunately, he did have to kill someone in self-defense and was told by his commanding officer 'Good kill.'

"My son replied 'You just don't get it, do you?'

"Here we are...Vietnam all over again."

From a 56-year-old Navy veteran, relating a conversation he had with a young man who was leaving for Iraq the next morning:

"What disturbed me most was when I asked him what weapons he carried as a truck driver. He told me the new M-16, model blah blah blah, stuff never made sense to me even when I was in. I asked him what kind of side arm they gave him and his fellow drivers. He explained, "Sir, Reservists are not issued side arms or flack vests as there was not enough money to outfit all the Reservists, only Active Personnel." I was appalled to say the least."

From a 40-year-old veteran of the Marine Corps:

"Why is it that we are forever waving the flag of sovereignty, EXCEPT when it concerns our financial interests in other sovereign states? What gives us the right to tell anyone else how they should govern themselves, and live their lives? Why can't we just lead the world by example? I mean no wonder the world hates us, who do they get to see? Young assholes in uniforms with guns, and rich, old, white tourists! Christ, could we put up a worse first impression?"
 

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Not quite sure I believe this, for two reasons:

1) If you click the link, you see this at the top:

Letters From the Troops

By Michael Moore, AlterNet

2) I thought the military had some sort of rules about not insulting the commander in chief and trying to undermine him. Seriously, what kind of pussy would say this shit after going and fighting in Iraq? Don't you think he would get his ass kicked by his fellow soldiers? I think that when liberal politicians and especially troops say stupid shit like this it makes the enemy more emboldened and puts our troops in even more danger. I can't imagine this sits well with troops who are still over there risking their lives and hoping for an end to the war as soon as possible
 

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The grammer and sentence structure seems very similar on all letters, thats why I'm inclined to believe its not true. Or has at least been editted heavily.

However, thats not to say there aren't many soldiers who feel this way. My best friend is on Christmas Break from Army Boot Camp in Ft. Benning Ga. He, and alot of his company feel the whole Saddam capture was staged...

Personally, I don't know what I believe....but I know Saddam was one evil mofo.
 

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I know a lot of Army guys who were in 3rd ID the ones who stormed Baghdad and none of them have any regrets or sound like snivling little wusses.
 

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None of the military peeps I know (and Colorado Springs is one of the most military centric towns in the US) have said anything remotely like that drivel.
 

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Nice try, nice fabrication...sounds like the work of an evil liberal.
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Michael Moore? What kind of US soldiers would write letters of dissent to Michael Moore!?! I'm sure there are some, but they are in a very small minority.
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Okay, so the source is suspect....

WHY do we presume soldiers aren't disgruntled or bitter? Are they supposed to be so brainwashed that they can't have their own ideas.

I mean, when soldiers were disrespecting Sen. Clinton when she visited Afghanistan, we don't question the legitimacy of that....

They just magically never have bad feelings towards the Commander-In-Chief? :rolleyes

Sorry, I don't buy it. They still have brains and can have their own opinions.
 

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Some soldiers are disgruntled about being over there, but most are glad they're doing it. While I was there, most of the guys just bitched about the situation, not the C in C; but there are some who blame him.









BTW: What trenches are they talking about?
 

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i think these letters are all bullshit...


and +1 to kraken: what trenches? I would assume that's a generalized term for being where they are.
 

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Baby Gorilla said:
Okay, so the source is suspect....

WHY do we presume soldiers aren't disgruntled or bitter? Are they supposed to be so brainwashed that they can't have their own ideas.

I mean, when soldiers were disrespecting Sen. Clinton when she visited Afghanistan, we don't question the legitimacy of that....

They just magically never have bad feelings towards the Commander-In-Chief? :rolleyes

Sorry, I don't buy it. They still have brains and can have their own opinions.
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Bro you are on a roll lately
 

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Baby Gorilla said:
Okay, so the source is suspect....

WHY do we presume soldiers aren't disgruntled or bitter? Are they supposed to be so brainwashed that they can't have their own ideas.
I presume nothing BG, I talk to many many military people here, some of them good friends. Some of didnot want to go, no doubt, but they did their duty and never trashed the pres or his policies. Unlike the shiite you post, some of us actually have real evidence from real people who where there. Its YOU who are making unfounded presumptions.
 

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I know quite a few in the desert. None of them talk any crap like that either. I rasie the :bs flag on this one.........................
 

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Baby Gorilla said:
Okay, so the source is suspect....

WHY do we presume soldiers aren't disgruntled or bitter? Are they supposed to be so brainwashed that they can't have their own ideas.

I mean, when soldiers were disrespecting Sen. Clinton when she visited Afghanistan, we don't question the legitimacy of that....

They just magically never have bad feelings towards the Commander-In-Chief? :rolleyes

Sorry, I don't buy it. They still have brains and can have their own opinions.
Here man... it being Christmas and all, I got you a present. I know you can use one ;)

 

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Rezin said:
I know quite a few in the desert. None of them talk any crap like that either. I rasie the :bs flag on this one.........................
Right. But like BG said, the source and letters are questionable but he made a point by asking do we assume none of the troops feel that way?

I'm sure the are troops that are against it, I'm sure there are troops for it. Just the way people are.
 

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Here man... it being Christmas and all, I got you a present. I know you can use one ;)

:lol :lol :lol

:clap REZ...you rock!
 

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Rezin said:
Here man... it being Christmas and all, I got you a present. I know you can use one ;)

:crackup
 

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More bleeding heart bullshit....it's getting so damn annoying....irritating....sickening....

Why can't they just leave and start their own country?

But then........I guess if they did that they'd have nothing to whine about, and that just wouldn't work.
 

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Once again....voice of dissent is considered "evil."

Of course, it's easy to say the troops support the C in C since it's a punnishable offense to speak contrary to him or his policies. You never hear them openly speak out, so they must not be any dissenters. :rolleyes
 

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You know what's funny. People post up the political beliefs and what not and us 'liberals' ask questions and 'what if' things to death and the only come backs equate to shit like 'leave the country' or 'head up ass' and shit like that. Unreal.

GOD FORBID I SHOULD HAVE MY OWN OPINION HUH!
 
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