[TAREK307]

HEY, this is a sensitive topic here, but we need to talk about it cuz it will just not go away!! first of all i just want to let you know that i support palestine and think they should get their land back..i dont support the suicide bombings they are doing that is bad!! but you must also know that many palestinian civilians are being killed everyday, the media here only shows when isrealis are killed, thats b.s! thousands of years ago the land PALESTINE used to be ISREAL, that was thousands of years ago, but until 1948 it was called palestine for thousands of years as well, and then ISREAL is born by kicking the palestinians out of their homes and declaring palestine as isreal its like the indians coming back and taking over america and saying hey 1oo's of years ago this was our land now we are taking it by force!! the U.N agreed to give ISREAL 51% Of the land which was palestine and then give the palestinians 49% of their land back, but then the isrealis started building settlements on the lands of the palestinians, where palestinians couldn't come around them, PALESTINIANS ARE PRISONERS IN THEIR OWN LAND we must understand that!! but its hard to when all you hear about is suicide bombers, but there are two sides to each story!! why in the hell would anyone go blow them selves up for a cause???? you know why, its because those people are desperate and they have no hope, ISREAL treats them like animals! check points, settlments, curfews, bull shit IN THE 80'S ARIEL SHARON WAS ACCUSED OF WAR CRIMES, he masacared hundreds of civilians in a refugee camp near lebanon!! he is a bastard!!:redflip I HOPE BOTH PALESTINIANS AND ISREALIS FIND PEACE CUZ ENOUGH BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED!

 

[Vandal]

So like, you're for Palestine and against Israel? Do I have this correct?

 

[adawg]

either way this post is in the wrong forum...

 

[TAREK307]

i'm for peace

i'm actually for peace, I BELIEVE ISREAL DESERVES TO EXIST BUT SO DOES PALESTINE.... i think that isreal should go back to its pre 1967 borders!! and disolve all settlements they built on the palestinians land!

 

[karl_996]

either way this post is in the wrong forum...

I agree.

 

[TAREK307]

thanks

thanks for moving the thread to the correct forum!!

 

[khuram0786]

but you must also know that many palestinian civilians are being killed everyday, the media here only shows when isrealis are killed, thats b.s!
then ISREAL is born by kicking the palestinians out of their homes and declaring palestine as isreal its like the indians coming back and taking over america and saying hey 1oo's of years ago this was our land now we are taking it by force!!
PALESTINIANS ARE PRISONERS IN THEIR OWN LAND we must understand that!! but its hard to when all you hear about is suicide bombers, but there are two sides to each story!!
they have no hope, ISREAL treats them like animals! check points, settlments, curfews, bull shit IN THE 80'S ARIEL SHARON WAS ACCUSED OF WAR CRIMES, he masacared hundreds of civilians in a refugee camp near lebanon!! he is a bastard!!
I HOPE BOTH PALESTINIANS AND ISREALIS FIND PEACE CUZ ENOUGH BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED!

<<At least 1,603 Palestinians and 604 Israelis have been killed since the uprising for statehood began in September 2000>>
-- This is from The Reuters News Agency

Actually, it wasn't hundreds the war criminal Sharon killed...it was more like thousands
He, from day one, said that he will not negoiate with Yasser Araft (whom I detest)...the 'peace' talks that occured under Clinton would have created a Palestinian state but w/o soooo many things a nation needs to exists that it wasn't feasable...
No one here has lived under full curfew, being detained w/o evidence, etc so it's easy to roll eyes and blow it off...
the sole reason for so much animosty towards the US by (a minority) of fanatics is b/c of the blatant favoritism towards "Israel"..."Israel" has broken THE most UN resolutions, more then Iraq....and this great "Ally" of the US has given classified information to nations like China, North Korea, etc


[Had to vent after news from home of another 'Israel' incursion]

 

[khuram0786]

At least 1,603 Palestinians and 604 Israelis have been killed since the uprising for statehood began in September 2000

Sorry, this is from Reuters..it didn't come on the post before

 

[krazymixer]

why can't we just all get along... Fighting and killing is not going to do anything for anyone.. It only kills the innocent ppl..:shake

 

[ziadel]

Israel = Democracy..
.Democracy is the best for of government we have (but it still sucks)
so, I dun really care for palestine, or their methods.

 

[khuram0786]

so, I dun really care for palestine

My point Eggzactly


...Democracy, eh?
how about those Dictators the US keeps supporting?
(Egypt, Saudis, Iraq in the 80s, Jordan, etcc..)

 

[ziadel]

My point Eggzactly


...Democracy, eh?
how about those Dictators the US keeps supporting?
(Egypt, Saudis, Iraq in the 80s, Jordan, etcc..)

no one said being the most powerful nation in the world was easy...

 

[TAREK307]

what do you mean??

what do you mean isreal=democracy... is it democratic to invade another country, is it democratic to impose curfews and crazy rules for humans, is it democratic to treat all palestinians as animals...i don't think so chief...what do you know about palestine, all you know is what you see on the media!!! wake up, to ge a different prespective on this conflict check out
www.egyptdailynews.com
or check out englands BBC NEWS!

I AM NOT FLAMING WHAT SO EVER I'M JUST DISGUSTED!

 

[TAREK307]

SO EGYPT IS A DICTATOR SHIP NOW!!

no one said being the most powerful nation in the world was easy...

HEY MAN thats new to me cuz i'm from EGYPT and its a democratic country buddy!!! you are just blinded by what you hear in the news aren't you!!! EGYPT has always been democratic its actually called the "ARAB REPUBLIC OF EGYPT" ziadel i don't realy think you have your info straight man!! go read some books or check out other news agencies that might no be so biast!!

 

[ziadel]

wait, your saying its not democratic to invade a country that keeps sending suicide bombers over the border???

You prolly think we're in the wrong for invading afghanistan too, dont ya?

 

[ziadel]

Re: SO EGYPT IS A DICTATOR SHIP NOW!!

HEY MAN thats new to me cuz i'm from EGYPT and its a democratic country buddy!!! you are just blinded by what you hear in the news aren't you!!! EGYPT has always been democratic its actually called the "ARAB REPUBLIC OF EGYPT" ziadel i don't realy think you have your info straight man!! go read some books or check out other news agencies that might no be so biast!!

when did I say that Egypt was NOT a democracy???? :confused

 

[TAREK307]

first of all

wait, your saying its not democratic to invade a country that keeps sending suicide bombers over the border???

You prolly think we're in the wrong for invading afghanistan too, dont ya?

ok first of all there is no border, cuz isreal declared its self isreal in 1948 so thats actually when they invaded, plus those suicide bombers are bastards and are just idiots who are delaying the peace process, the palestinian goverment is against suicide bombing cuz it only delays peace...those suicide bombers from from hamas and all those other groups, hate arafat and don't listen to him, and they feel that isreal will not budge except by force... ishak rabin and yasser arafat were both on their way to peace! till rabin got killed by another isreali!! come on man get your facts strait please..... you think that only palestinians are killing isrealis???? isrealis have been killing innocent palestinians for years.... remember how people used to laugh at the palestinians fighting with rocks, now they have totaly lost hope and they are being treated like animals so they are acting like animals!!!:creep

 

[ziadel]

Re: first of all

ok first of all there is no border, cuz isreal declared its self isreal in 1948 so thats actually when they invaded, plus those suicide bombers are bastards and are just idiots who are delaying the peace process, the palestinian goverment is against suicide bombing cuz it only delays peace...those suicide bombers from from hamas and all those other groups, hate arafat and don't listen to him, and they feel that isreal will not budge except by force... ishak rabin and yasser arafat were both on their way to peace! till rabin got killed by another isreali!! come on man get your facts strait please..... you think that only palestinians are killing isrealis???? isrealis have been killing innocent palestinians for years.... remember how people used to laugh at the palestinians fighting with rocks, now they have totaly lost hope and they are being treated like animals so they are acting like animals!!!:creep

thats all well and good, but your preaching to the wrong people here..
My country was once a colony of england, until it was declared to be the United States of America...
I don't know anything about the Israelis commiting war crimes or other attrocities...
:shrug
I really dun think your gonna get many supporters here man...
Beides, I think the Israelis should have that land, shit they deserve it, they're some of the greatest warriors in the world, combine that with the fact that they believe that god himself gave them that land...
YOu wouldnt even be able to pry it out of their cold dead hands...

 

[TrafficDiver]

Re: first of all

ok first of all there is no border, cuz isreal declared its self isreal in 1948 so thats actually when they invaded, plus those suicide bombers are bastards and are just idiots who are delaying the peace process, the palestinian goverment is against suicide bombing cuz it only delays peace...those suicide bombers from from hamas and all those other groups, hate arafat and don't listen to him, and they feel that isreal will not budge except by force... ishak rabin and yasser arafat were both on their way to peace! till rabin got killed by another isreali!! come on man get your facts strait please..... you think that only palestinians are killing isrealis???? isrealis have been killing innocent palestinians for years.... remember how people used to laugh at the palestinians fighting with rocks, now they have totaly lost hope and they are being treated like animals so they are acting like animals!!!:creep

Israel will allow Palestinians to live in peace. Palestinians will never be happy until all Isralies are dead. That's it, there will be no peace until one or the other is gone. Just let them fight it out.

 

[ziadel]

Re: Re: first of all

Blah, just let this die...