OK, need explaination and advice(chain & sprocket)

J-Rod said:
I need a new chain, and I want a new rear sprocket....how do I know what to get since there are so many different combos, for example, the pitch and 520 or 530 conversions, etc.. and teeth numbers on the sprocket...WTF, I know I'm not dumb, but damn I feel like it when it comes to that shit..

Currently the stock sprocket is a 43 Tooth. All I really want is maybe a little more pull in 2nd and 3rd gear, but I do not want to loose too much top end....what is the difference in 520 and 530?
Basically, just tell me what you know. Break it down for me!


Help a brotha out...thanks.

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go 520, drop one tooth in the front, I think sprocket specialists or sprocket center has a great deal for about $160, get RK xring gold chain, RRP rear sprocket, awesome set up, basically with a 520 chain you're getting less weight, which means quicker acceleration and dropping a tooth in the front will also give you quicker acceleration but a little less top speed


oh yeah, Go Cougs!!!!:redflip :redflip

J-Rod said:
I need a new chain, and I want a new rear sprocket....how do I know what to get since there are so many different combos, for example, the pitch and 520 or 530 conversions, etc.. and teeth numbers on the sprocket...WTF, I know I'm not dumb, but damn I feel like it when it comes to that shit..

Currently the stock sprocket is a 43 Tooth. All I really want is maybe a little more pull in 2nd and 3rd gear, but I do not want to loose too much top end....what is the difference in 520 and 530?
Basically, just tell me what you know. Break it down for me!


Help a brotha out...thanks.

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According to my vaaaaast knowledge.. a 520 chain is lighter & thinner than the OEM 530 chain that is currently fitted to your bike. So yes, you guessed it.. it saves weight. As far as teeth go.. when you go up in the number of teeth on the sprocket (for the rear sprocket that is..) you are increasing acceleration. The near same effect can be attained by going down a tooth or two on the front sprocket. And yes Jerrad.. you guessed it again.. if you were to go down on the number of teeth in the rear, you'd sacrifice some acceleration for top speed.. the same effect would be realized by going up in the number of teeth on the front sprocket. SO.. what you'll want to do.. is get a quality 520 rear & front sprocket (along with a 520 chain).. and I'd go probably with a 45 rear and keep the front stock. :eek

- Matt

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Scooter R1 said:
go 520, drop one tooth in the front, I think sprocket specialists or sprocket center has a great deal for about $160, get RK xring gold chain, RRP rear sprocket, awesome set up, basically with a 520 chain you're getting less weight, which means quicker acceleration and dropping a tooth in the front will also give you quicker acceleration but a little less top speed

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That exactly what I was going to say.

Re: Re: OK, need explaination and advice(chain & sprocket)

imagine32000 said:
According to my vaaaaast knowledge.. a 520 chain is lighter & thinner than the OEM 530 chain that is currently fitted to your bike. So yes, you guessed it.. it saves weight. As far as teeth go.. when you go up in the number of teeth on the sprocket (for the rear sprocket that is..) you are increasing acceleration. The near same effect can be attained by going down a tooth or two on the front sprocket. And yes Jerrad.. you guessed it again.. if you were to go down on the number of teeth in the rear, you'd sacrifice some acceleration for top speed.. the same effect would be realized by going up in the number of teeth on the front sprocket. SO.. what you'll want to do.. is get a quality 520 rear & front sprocket (along with a 520 chain).. and I'd go probably with a 45 rear and keep the front stock. :eek

- Matt

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hmmmmmm........ not quite, the ratios are different, one tooth in the front will equal about 2 1/2 teeth on the rear

Down one in the front is a fair amount of change. It will pull harder in all gears, and be VERY wheelie prone in 1st, and somewhat in 2nd. You will lose some top end and definitely be revving higher on the freeway. If you want just a little boost in gearing, try going up one or two in the back. (-1 in front is like +3 in back)

I don't know how R1s are geared stock. For example, a 1000 is geared for about 190 mph stock, though a stocker can't pull more than 180. So you could say it's overgeared. You could gear it down some and lose no top end, as it can't pull the stock gearing anyway. Do R1s wind out 6th all the way, or just poop out shy of redline like a 1000?

1 in front is = to 5 in the rear

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Scooter R1 said:
hmmmmmm........ not quite, the ratios are different, one tooth in the front will equal about 2 1/2 teeth on the rear

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That's why I said a tooth or two up in the front.. NUKKA. :redflip

- Matt

GixxerPete said:
Down one in the front is a fair amount of change. It will pull harder in all gears, and be VERY wheelie prone in 1st, and somewhat in 2nd. You will lose some top end and definitely be revving higher on the freeway. If you want just a little boost in gearing, try going up one or two in the back. (-1 in front is like +3 in back)

I don't know how R1s are geared stock. For example, a 1000 is geared for about 190 mph stock, though a stocker can't pull more than 180. So you could say it's overgeared. You could gear it down some and lose no top end, as it can't pull the stock gearing anyway. Do R1s wind out 6th all the way, or just poop out shy of redline like a 1000?

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I dunno really.. either way the R1 is faster than the 1000.. and we all know that.. so that's all that matters. It takes a lot of skill to go fast in a straight line.. duhhh... :rolleyes :whatever :shake :redflip

- Matt

And you have Loads of that [skill] :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

milleman said:

1 in front is = to 5 in the rear

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What have you been smoking??? -1 in front is 2.5-3 in back!!! :slap

ok, you guys are confusing a bit...

who has the right statement outta these?
Scooter is sounding pretty smart, and to the point

i knew this thread would get interesting

Scooter and me are right... Mike is high as a kite! :laughing

Maybe those Eye-talians figure gearing different? Or they figure it in Euros or something? :confused

J, I'll steer you right.

Buy a 520 chain (thinner/lighter) and a 520 sprocket that's 2 teeth more than stock.

Done.

I wouldn't buy Sprocket Specialist. I ordered from them about 6 months ago and still haven't gotten it. I cancelled the order and got a Renthal in a week or so.

I knew that my continued crack use would get me in trouble! :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

I yield the floor to the gentleman from krack county USA :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :eek :laughing :laughing

Mr. Clean said:
Buy a 520 chain (thinner/lighter) and a 520 sprocket that's 2 teeth more than stock.

Done.

I wouldn't buy Sprocket Specialist. I ordered from them about 6 months ago and still haven't gotten it. I cancelled the order and got a Renthal in a week or so.

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Yup. I agree. Renthal is great and looks good too, cuz you know, we're all about posing.

Go with a 45 (+2) in the rear and add a D.I.D. 520 chain. For the front sprocket, you can go cheap and get OEM size Vortex (only like $20).

Lot's of guys on the R1 boards with 2002 models, get -1 in the front and +2 in the rear. Makes it a massive wheelie bike, but then again, all R1 riders are hooligans and misfits.

-1 and +2??? :eek

Do R1s really need that much help getting it up? :nanana :crackup

GixxerPete said:
-1 and +2??? :eek

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Yeah, when I was changing my set-up, I seeked the R1-Forums advice and they all had -1 and +2. I was like "Dayam."

I ended up with just +2 and it's fine.

GixxerPete said:
Do R1s really need that much help getting it up? :nanana :crackup

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:rant :rolleyes :redflip

Just go +2 in the back and #520 chain & sprockets, if you go -1 in front you will be pulling harder but lose top end. talk to Hector about it he will tell you how it feels.

get a better clutch set up too. The bike will feel so much more responsive with a decent clutch pack.