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Dead to Sin, Alive to God

What shall we say then?
Shall we continue in sin
that grace may abound?

Certainly not!
How shall we
who died to sin
live any longer in it?

Or do you not know
that as many of us as
were baptized into Christ Jesus
were baptized into His death?

Therefore we were buried with Him
through baptism into death,
that just as Christ was raised
from the dead by the glory of the Father,
even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been united together
in the likeness of His death,
certainly we also shall be
in the likeness of His resurrection,

knowing this,
that our old man was crucified with Him,
that the body of sin might be done away with,
that we should no longer be slaves of sin.

For he who has died has been freed from sin.

Now if we died with Christ,
we believe that we shall also live with Him,

knowing that Christ,
having been raised from the dead, dies no more.
Death no longer has dominion over Him.

For the death that He died,
He died to sin once for all;
but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

Likewise you also,
reckon yourselves
to be dead indeed to sin,
but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

do not let sin reign in your mortal body,
that you should obey it in its lusts.

And do not present your members
as instruments of unrighteousness to sin,
but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead,
and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.

For sin shall not have dominion over you,
for you are not under law but under grace.

From Slaves of Sin to Slaves of God

What then?
Shall we sin
because we are not under law
but under grace? Certainly not!

Do you not know
that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
you are that one's slaves whom you obey,
whether of sin leading to death,
or of obedience leading to righteousness?

But God be thanked
that though you were slaves of sin,
yet you obeyed from the heart
that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.

And having been set free from sin,
you became slaves of righteousness.

I speak in human terms
because of the weakness of your flesh.
For just as you presented your members
as slaves of uncleanness,
and of lawlessness
leading to more lawlessness,
so now present your members
as slaves of righteousness for holiness.

For when you were slaves of sin,
you were free in regard to righteousness.

What fruit did you have then
in the things of which you are now ashamed?
For the end of those things is death.

But now having been set free from sin,
and having become slaves of God,
you have your fruit to holiness,
and the end, everlasting life.

For the wages of sin is death,
but the gift of God is eternal life
in Christ Jesus our Lord.

- Romans 6

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You Are Dead to Sin

"What shall we say, then?
shall we go on sinning
that grace may increase? By no means!
We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?" (Romans 6:1,2)
The defeated Christian asks,
"How can I do that?
How I do I die to sin,
including the sexual sins that have me bound?"
The answer is, "You can't do it!"
Why not?
Because you have already died to sin at salvation.
"We died to sin" is past tense;
it has already been done.
This is something you must believe,
not something you must do.

"I can't be dead to sin," you may respond,
"because I don't feel dead to sin."
You will have to set your feelings aside for a few verses,
because it's what you believe that sets you free, not what you feel.
God's word is true whether you choose to believe it or not.
Believing the Word of God doesn't make it true;
His Word is true, therefore you must believe it
even if your emotions don't cooperate.

A pastor stopped by my office one day and said,
"I have been struggling for 22 years in my Christian experience.
It's been one trial after another, and I think I know what my problem is.
I was doing my devotions the other day when I came across Colossians 3:3,
'For you died and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.'
That's the key to victory, isn't it?"
I assured him that I agreed.
Then he asked, "How do I do that?"

I was surprised by his question,
so I asked him to look at the passage again
and read it just a little slower.
So he read it again:
'For you died and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.'
Again he asked in desparation,
"I know I need to die with Christ, but how do I do it?"
This dear man has been desparately trying
for 22 years to do something that has already been done,
to become someone he already is.
He's not alone.
Many Bible-believing Christians
are bogged down in their maturity and victory
because they are trying to become something they already are.

- Neil T. Anderson, A Way of Escape, pp. 122-123

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Good post. There's definitely nothing we can do to add to the sacrifice that Jesus already made for our sins, past, present, and future. Spiritually dead to Sin, but like Paul, stuck in bodies that are riddled with it.

Something I ran across the other day that helped cement the knowledge that Jesus loves us despite the sins he already knows we're going to rebel and commit.

Jhn 13:1 NASB Now before the Feast of the Passover, Jesus knowing that His hour had come that He would depart out of this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.

... lots of good stuff in between these two verses....

Jhn 13:38 NASB Jesus *answered, "Will you lay down your life for Me? Truly, truly, I say to you, a rooster will not crow until you deny Me three times.

Jesus loved Peter. Loved him even looking right at Peter's betrayal of Him, which was yet to happen! God's capacity for unqualified, undeserved love absolutely blows me away. Jesus knew His sacrifice would pay for Peter's betrayal, just as it has payed for all of ours.

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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Free from Indwelling Sin

Salvation from Sin, Death, and Suffering

There is therefore now no condemnation
to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus
hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

For what the law could not do,
in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son
in the likeness of sinful flesh,
and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

For they that are after the flesh
do mind the things of the flesh;
but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

For to be carnally minded is death;
but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:
for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

And if Christ be in you,
the body is dead because of sin;
but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

But if the Spirit of him
that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you,
he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also
quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Sonship Through the Spirit

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors,
not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:
but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear;
but ye have received the Spirit of adoption,
whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit,
that we are the children of God:

And if children,
then heirs; heirs of God,
and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him,
that we may be also glorified together.

From Suffering to Glory

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time
are not worthy to be compared with
the glory which shall be revealed in us.

For the earnest expectation of the creature
waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly,
but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered
from the bondage of corruption
into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

For we know that the whole creation groaneth
and travaileth in pain together until now.

And not only they, but ourselves also,
which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,
even we ourselves groan within ourselves,
waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

For we are saved by hope:
but hope that is seen is not hope:
for what a man seeth,
why doth he yet hope for?

But if we hope for that we see not,
then do we with patience wait for it.

Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:
for we know not what we should pray for as we ought:
but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us
with groanings which cannot be uttered.

And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth
what is the mind of the Spirit,
because he maketh intercession
for the saints according to the will of God.

And we know that all things work together
for good to them that love God,
to them who are the called according to his purpose.

For whom he did foreknow,
he also did predestinate
to be conformed to the image of his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

whom he did predestinate,
them he also called:
and whom he called,
them he also justified:
and whom he justified,
them he also glorified.

God's Everlasting Love

What shall we then say to these things?
If God be for us, who can be against us?

He that spared not his own Son,
but delivered him up for us all,
how shall he not with him
also freely give us all things?

Who shall lay any thing
to the charge of God's elect?
It is God that justifieth.

Who is he that condemneth?
It is Christ that died,
yea rather, that is risen again,
who is even at the right hand of God,
who also maketh intercession for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?
shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution,
or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

As it is written,
For thy sake we are killed all the day long;
we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

in all these things
we are more than conquerors
through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded,
that neither death,
nor life,
nor angels,
nor principalities,
nor powers,
nor things present,
nor things to come,

Nor height,
nor depth,
nor any other creature,
shall be able to separate us
from the love of God,
which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

- Romans 8

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